July 19, 2014

"There was a howling noise... then I heard a roar and she landed in the kitchen, the roof was broken..."

"The body's still here because they told me to wait for experts to come and get it... I opened the door and I saw people falling. One fell in my vegetable patch."

33 comments:

The Crack Emcee said...

Question :

Do Ukrainians have insurance for that?

Sydney said...

"..they told me to wait for experts." Problem is, those "experts" may be covering up the crime

Bob Boyd said...

I guess the ol' Reset Button didn't appeal to Putin.
He's more of a Launch Button kind of guy.

Seeing Red said...

Mitt Romney was right.

What difference, at this point, does it make?

So, Professor, you voted for dems cos u wanted them to own/be accountable for foreign policy, how's that working out for ya?

I don't remember your exact words.

Ann Althouse said...

Those of you who are turning this into an American political issue, replete with sarcasm and comic touches, might want to examine the condition of your soul.

Tarrou said...

I blame white republicans! If they'd been better at governing in the early oughts, we wouldn't have a semi-literate imbecile sputtering uselessly and embarrassingly about "tragedies".

Tarrou said...

Oh, and I just checked with my soul, and he says he doesn't exist, and wants me to be a worse person in any case.

pm317 said...

What is the collateral civilian damage with Obama's drones?

David said...

Just like Lockerbie. Raining death.

These are the dramatic high profile deaths. Of passersby.

Of course there have been more than this and there are more to come.

Bob Ellison said...

The comic touches and political responses are defense mechanisms. Most of us have never witnessed such a horror or anything approaching it, except in Hollywood animation.

David said...

The Russians shot down the Korea Air flight while Reagan was President. Was that Reagan's fault?

Reagan did very little to retaliate. Because he was a wimp? Or because there was so little he could do?



rhhardin said...

Those of you who are turning this into an American political issue, replete with sarcasm and comic touches, might want to examine the condition of your soul.

Reminder : 100,000 people die in the world every day (round number). 10,000 Americans.

The most entertaining deaths are in the news.

Joking about it is a way of refusing to be entertained by it.

Reject the link-drawing journalism. They want your eyeballs in return for your getting a good cry.

Women's films are called tear-jerkers. Women watch them. They're entertained.

The same thing happens to their voting.

rhhardin said...

The comic touches and political responses are defense mechanisms. Most of us have never witnessed such a horror or anything approaching it, except in Hollywood animation.

Defense against entertainment idiocy, not death.

Ann Althouse said...

"Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988."

Bob Ellison said...

Check that: many of us witnessed 9/11 (in my case, on TV).

That day changed how many Americans react to horrible acts.

Israel and pretty much all of the Middle East must think we Americans are strange. How can we not know that humans do such things?

rhhardin said...

The soul grammatically is the place of attachment to others.

"He has no soul" means he doesn't relate to something or other.

But you might know about political manipulation, commercial manipulation and soap opera and hold out for the real thing instead of the soppy weeping about news selected for your weepyness.

Your soul might know about it.

What about those other 100,000 people who died yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that.

The news knows about the soul, how it responds to signs, and they import those signs into your own neighborhood to produce just that weepy reaction as entertainment for youself. They sell you to advertisers in return.

But the survival value of that weepy response is when something actually is in your actual neighborhood, which leads to actual help being given, comfort by the women and reconstruction by the men.

Distinguish an actual neighborhood from the media world, ridicule the latter.

rhhardin said...

The Iranian airliner was identified as attacking.

A slight computer programming algorithm hole. Not everything a computer says is happening is happening.

Rusty said...

Ann Althouse said...
Those of you who are turning this into an American political issue, replete with sarcasm and comic touches, might want to examine the condition of your soul.

God already knows I'm an asshole.

meanwhile Putin is in the middle of his Bagdad Bob moment.

Rusty said...

Ann Althouse said...
"Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988."

Did we try to cover it up? Did we steal the black boxes? Did our people on the ground loot the dead?

Seeing Red said...

Most of us have never witnessed such horror?

Falling bodies? Seriously?

Don't remember falling man? Or hearing the whump of the WTC bodies hitting the ground?

As to the condition of my soul?

Just because I don't default to my boobs and ovary response? Or because I refused to display my boobs and ovary response?


Elections have consequences.

We are Cold War babies. Revisiting our boomer childhood from that aspect is not something I wish for my descendants. US voters, however, deemed otherwise.

Cedarford said...

1. Part of the difficulty of being 65-year old pensioner and ethnic Russian Irina Tipunova. You never know who will be dropping in your home or arriving nearby. Suddenly, with no notice.

2. " sydney said...
"..they told me to wait for experts." Problem is, those "experts" may be covering up the crime"

Sydney, like many people, has been brainwashed by the media into thinking war is a civilian criminal law enforcement matter. All civilians are "innocent". All military people are "guilty of crime" if they break anything or cause casualties outside their fellow guilty soldiers in uniform.

Not so.

War is different.
Targeting is not perfect.
There is no such thing as each case of bad targeting or collateral damage being a "grave war crime".

3. You can't laud Saint Nelson Mandela for spending his life trying to strongarm "Majority Rule"...then condemn Putin for pushing the same thing in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.


exhelodrvr1 said...

Romney was right.

donald said...

Within less than a decade there was no more Soviet Union, just in case you forgot genius.

donald said...

It's rich that the sophisticated voters that got us into this nightmare, whine about the response.

Sebastian said...

"Those of you who are turning this into an American political issue, replete with sarcasm and comic touches, might want to examine the condition of your soul."

Done. Soul in good shape. Thanks for encouraging the check-up.

Now back to the real world, where some souls are unaccountably missing.

True, it's not just a political issue and not just an American political issue, but, like most such issues, it is also an American political issue.

How is Barry going to reset this? Or did he run out of buttons?

Bob Boyd said...

Ann Althouse said...
"Those of you who are turning this into an American political issue, replete with sarcasm and comic touches, might want to examine the condition of your soul."

You're probably right about my soul. Last time I saw the damn thing it was headed away from me making a noise like a dry bearing and leaving a smoke trail.
But whether Putin comes to regret his choice of the launch button over the reset button hinges on the American political process. In the face of that fact, I'd better hang on to my sense of humor.

Paco Wové said...

While unlikely, it is just possible that there are events taking place in the world that actually have little to do with U.S. domestic politics.

Drago said...

David: "Reagan did very little to retaliate. Because he was a wimp? Or because there was so little he could do?"

LOL

Reagan was already challenging the Soviets in every sphere in every region. Challenges that continued to expand throughout his tenure.

His goal was nothing less than the implosion of the Soviet model.

And, of course, the left universally hated him for it.

In fact, one of the more public ways Reagan was challenging the Soviets was deploying intermediate nukes in Europe. By 1983 the US had already begun preparation for the arming of NATO forces with intermediate nuclear weapons to balance the intermediate nuclear missiles the Soviets had already deployed in the Warsaw Pact nations. The Soviets and American left (but I repeat myself) did not like that at all.

There are so many examples of how Reagan brought pressure to bear against the Russian bear that space alone limits the tally.

As for obama, well, he's very busy being extremely flexible and bending over backwards so as not to upset his boyfriend in the kremlin.

Drago said...

Cedarford: "You can't laud Saint Nelson Mandela for spending his life trying to strongarm "Majority Rule"...then condemn Putin for pushing the same thing in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine."

LOL

What do you mean "can't"?

Did you mean "shouldn't"?

traditionalguy said...

As I understand the recent events reported, Russian special forces are leading the Russian speaking East Ukrainians in a war to secede from Ukraine. The Ukrainian guys have been attacking the secessionists and still hold onto their military base deep inside the secessionist area, but surrounded like Bastogne was in December 1945.

The Ukrainians have been flying in supplies to that surrounded base and Russians have been trying to shoot down those flights. ..once this week successfully but the second time mistaking the Malaysian Air flight for that resupply flight because of where it seemed to be headed.

But whether an Archduke has been assassinated or a civilian flight has been mistakenly targeted, going to war with Russia to beat Putin would be a decision more stupid than WWI.

LilyBart said...


That must of been a horrible thing to witness.

And those poor passengers.

Conserve Liberty said...

As I understand the recent events reported, Russian special forces are leading the Russian speaking East Ukrainians in a war to secede from Ukraine. The Ukrainian guys have been attacking the secessionists and still hold onto their military base deep inside the secessionist area, but surrounded like Bastogne was in December 1945.

The Ukrainians have been flying in supplies to that surrounded base and Russians have been trying to shoot down those flights. ..once this week successfully but the second time mistaking the Malaysian Air flight for that resupply flight because of where it seemed to be headed.


Whether true or a made up news day spin, we've had so much BS spin for so long that I immediately thought, "What a bunch of BS spin THAT is."

But whether an Archduke has been assassinated or a civilian flight has been mistakenly targeted, going to war with Russia to beat Putin would be a decision more stupid than WWI.

Archduke Ferdinand was my first thought after the Reuters alert popped up on my monitor.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Is Althouse implying that people might have BLACK souls?

I expect racism from the plantation keeper of Crack, but is Ann really going to start claiming to be a religious expert as well?

Ugly.